US TAG (TC 154) N249

Date: 1999-02-22

 

 

 

ISO TC 154 U.S. TAG

Meeting Minutes - February 9, 1999

Hyatt Regency Dallas at Reunion, Dallas, Texas

 

1. Call to Order and Introductions

 

Mr. Dan Codman, ISO/TC 154 U.S. TAG Chair, called the meeting to order at 6:06 p.m. A quorum was called for and confirmed. Self-introductions were made.

 

2. Approval of Agenda

 

The agenda for the meeting was approved as augmented with one addition as the first order of business under New Business:

Approve three new membership applications

 

3. Approval of Minutes

 

Minutes of the October 7, 1999, U.S. TAG meeting in Miami, Florida, were unanimously approved as presented.

 

4. New Business

 

4.1 Candidates for Membership

 

Three candidates have applied for membership in the U.S. TAG. The TAG Administrator confirmed that each has met the membership requirements. Approved applicants will become voting members for this meeting.

 

4.1.1 A motion was made and seconded to approve the applications for memberships for Robert Crowley, Sandra K. Paul and Mark Nobles. The motion was unanimously approved.

 

4.2 Review TC154 plenary resolutions

 

The TAG discussed the resolutions with significance from the 15th meeting of ISO/TC 154 held on October 22-23, 1998 in Paris.

 

4.2.1 Resolution #159 specifies that ISO/TC 154 member bodies have approved two new work items on the BSR, and TC 154 will set up Working Group 1 (WG1), for that work. Mr. Klaus-Dieter Naujok informed the TAG that TC154 is going ahead with the BSR over the objections of the US, there are recommendations to TC154 or other organizations about what the BSR should be and disagreement is arising about what has to be done.

 

The TC154 Secretariat has issued a call for participation on WG1 and Mr. Naujok recommended the US not participate so that US resources could be applied in a different way.

 

ACTION: The TAG Administrator will notify the ISO/TC 154 Secretariat that the US will observe the efforts of WG1 but are not willing to provide support.

 

4.2.2 Resolution #157 is related to maintenance and distribution of service elements for ISO 9735. Mr. Naujok reported JSWG has recommended to TC 154 that JSWG maintain its own web site and recommended separation of the syntax directory from the UN/EDIFACT directory. With version 4 of the ISO 9735 syntax soon to be published, users could be mislead that they were required to use the version appearing in the UN/EDIFACT Directory. The syntax will be published separately and will be maintained by JSWG. However, the 154 Plenary had not received the JSWG resolution for review at the October meeting and will address it at the next meeting.

 

4.2.3 Mr. Naujok also received information that the next TC154 meeting is scheduled for July, and JSWG is to meet just before. However, since the Canadians have indicated it will take at least 4 months before their objections to the syntax are available, and those objections must then be reviewed by JTC1 for approval, there is no reason to have either the JSWG or TC 154 meet before that is done.

 

Motion was made and passed that the US TAG forward the following resolutions to the ISO/TC154 Secretariat:

 

Resolution 1: Under the MoU/MT resolution the JSWG has no purpose to meet until after the report from JTC1 with the Canadian comments on the ISO 9735 security parts is available for JSWG review. It would be appropriate for TC 154 to hold its meeting in conjunction with the JSWG in order to progress the results of JSWG's review on the security comments. In order to manage this in the most expedient way and because Canada has indicated it would take at least 4 months to conclude their report and further time would be required by JTC1 to review and approve the Canadian comments, the TC154 US TAG recommends not scheduling the next TC154 meeting until after the JTC1 has forwarded the report to JSWG.

 

Resolution 2: TC 154 US TAG recommends that the next meeting of TC 154 be held outside Europe in order to attract participation from its non-European membership. The US is offering to host it.

 

Mr. Naujok commented that Harbinger would probably offer to host the meeting.

 

5. Old Business

 

5.1 Liaison Reports

 

5.1.1 Liaison to JTC1/SC32/WG1

 

Ms. Sandra Paul reported that JTC1/SC32/WG1 US TAG would meet on Wednesday, February 10. As representatives to the MoU/MG, the SC32/WG1 TAG urges the TC 154 US TAG not to support any further activity in the BSR.

 

5.1.2 Liaison to JTC1 U.S. TAG

 

Mr. Ralph Berwanger reported he had attended the JTC1 U.S. TAG Delegates meeting held December 15-17, 1998. Mr. Berwanger provided the JTC 1 TAG with the real picture of the issues of Canadian objections on the security parts of the syntax and the JSWG position, and provided comments that the Canadian report of the JSWG meeting was inaccurate. The U.S. position developed at the meeting was not in support of the Canadians and was in support of unblocking publication of Parts 5, 6, 7 and 9 of 9735.

 

Mr. Naujok commented that there is no report available from the Canadians since their objections were still in a study group. Publication of the syntax will be unblocked until the Canadians produce a report. If the objections are serious, a corrigendum to the standard can be issued.

 

5.1.3 Liaison to X12C

 

Mr. Codman indicated there was nothing significant to report; there is no activity on syntax and some minor maintenance on X12.6.

 

6. Determination of Next Meeting

 

The next meeting of the ISO/TC 154 U.S. TAG is scheduled for Tuesday, June 8, 1999, from 6 to 8 p.m. in San Diego, California, in conjunction with the X12 Trimester Meeting.

 

There being no further business before the group, Mr. Codman adjourned the meeting at 6:38 p.m.

 

Respectfully submitted,

 

Gaile L. Spadin

ISO/TC 154 U.S. TAG Administrator

 

 

Participants:

Dan Codman, Chair (eventra)

Mary K. Blantz, Vice Chair (AISI/LTV Steel)

Ralph Berwanger (XEN Corporation)

R. T. Crowley (Research Triangle Consultants, Inc.)

William H. Gaskins (AIAG)

Melanie McCarthy (General Motors Corp.)

Klaus-Dieter Naujok (Harbinger Corporation)

Mark Nobles (XEN Corporation)

Sandra K. Paul (Book Industry Study Group)

Gaile Spadin, TAG Administrator (DISA)

 

Observers:

Curtis DuPree (XEN Corporation)

William J. Kammerer (Foresight Corporation)

Kenneth Konikowski (DynamicWeb Enterprises, Inc.)

Lou Wagner (Unisys Corporation)

James Wooten (DISA-CFS/JECPO)

Regina Girouard (DISA)