ISO TC 154 U.S. TAG
Meeting Minutes - February 4, 1998
Disneyland Hotel, Anaheim, California

 1.    Call to Order and Introductions

Mr. Dan Codman, ISO/TC 154 US TAG Vice-Chair, called the meeting to order at 6:02 p.m. He announced Ms. Gail Jackson has resigned as Chair of the TAG due to her impending retirement. On behalf of the TAG, the AIAG and X12C, he acknowledged her contribution in general to X12 and specifically to their respective groups. He stated that her advice and wisdom would be missed.

1.1    A quorum was called for and confirmed by the TAG Administrator.

2.    Approval of Agenda

The agenda for the meeting was approved as augmented with Item 6 modified to read "Election of Officers" and Item 4.1 "Discussion on 9735" to include a discussion of the proposed amendment.

3.    Approval of Minutes

Minutes of the October 7, 1997, U.S. TAG Meeting in Los Angeles, California, were unanimously approved as presented.

4.    New Business

4.1    ISO 9735 Parts 1, 2, 3 and 8
Mr. Klaus-Dieter Naujok explained the types of balloting for ISO 9735 under the ISO fast-track procedure. The original ballot is for the Draft International Standard (DIS), the second for Final Draft International Standard (FDIS). During the DIS ballot, comments can be made and taken into account. During the FDIS ballot, the responses are Yes or NO. The current ballot is for FDIS and will close February 25, 1998.

A motion was made, seconded, and opened for discussion that ISO/TC 154 U.S. TAG approve ISO 9735 Parts 1, 2, 3 and 8. The motion was unanimously approved.

Mr. Naujok further explained a proposed amendment to address segment collision avoidance that came out of the recent JSWG meeting in Berlin. Both ISO and the UN/ECE will have to approve the amendment since it is developed in the UN/ECE-ISO Joint Syntax Group. It will be circulated for ballot by ISO and put forward to the UN/CEFACT EWG during the Miami JRT for approval.

Per the UN's request the documents will be in a single publication cycle after both the FDIS and the amendment ballots are completed, with the amendment included as an editorial change to Version 4. The ISO Secretariat will advise the UN when this ballot has been completed and the UN will set an implementation date.

ACTION: Since there will be a shorter voting cycle on the amendment ballot, the amendment will be circulated to voting members of the TAG for letter ballot.

Mr. Naujok also reported that during the Berlin meeting, Part 10, Security Rules for Interactive EDI, had been modified to become a stronger document. Previously the UN had not approved Part 10 in their March 1997 meeting to go into the ISO ballot cycle. There is now a Part 11, Interactive CONTRL.

4.2    Second working draft of ISO 8601

The U.S. TAG identified three problem areas in the standard:

a. Section 5.2.1.2, item c. The TAG wishes to point out that it is incorrect to define CC as a "specific century", a term which infers that, for example, the current century is the 20th. This surely is not the intent and accordingly, the TAG recommends that item "c" be titled "a specific hundred year value" in which CC is defined as the first two digits of the four digit calendar year.

b. Section 5.2.1.3, items a, b and c. The TAG wishes to point out that a six digit date is not necessarily in the current century and indeed, the intent may be that the date is in the next or prior century. Given the comments of the prior section, the TAG recommends that more appropriate wording would be "a specific date in which the hundred year value is omitted".

c. Sections 5.3.3 and 5.4.1 lack a normative reference for time zone.

The TC 154 US TAG contribution as stated above will be forwarded through ANSI for the attention of Mr. Louis Visser, editor of ISO 8601.

4.3    Review of agenda for 14th Plenary of TC 154

The TAG determined there were no pressing items of concern to the U.S. TAG. No delegates were appointed to attend the meeting in Geneva.

Mr. Naujok stated that the BSR would be discussed during the meeting. The funding for the BSR from ISO ends in June, and it is proposed to transfer it to TC154. If the Plenary concurs with the proposal of transfer, TC 154 would still have to approve the BSR work item through a ballot. At that time the U.S. could express a national position.

5.0 Old Business

5.1 Liaison reports

Ralph Berwanger -X12C Liaison

Mr. Berwanger, relative to his involvement with the security portion of EDIFACT and its alignment with X12, reported he attended the Anaheim JRT with T-4 (Joint Security Work Group), which is equivalent to the X12C subcommittee, as well as the SJWG meeting in Berlin as a U.S. representative.

Parts 5, 6, 7, 9 and 10 of ISO 9735 relate to security and there is an issue how they align with X12. Although there is a different approach in the way the data are laid out, theoretically the same functionality exists. During the meeting in Berlin two weeks ago, comments after ballot were rolled in for Parts 5 and 6. Part 10, which was an issue for the interactive security, has been improved and X12 is working to replicate that functionality.

Ms. Sandra Paul - SC30/SC32 Liaison

The SC30 US TAG has put forth resolutions recommending the discontinuation of the BSR project. However, since the U.S. placed the only vote against the project and it was approved to continue, the TAG subsequently supported transferring the BSR out of ISO CC and into TC 154 because it is a traditional ISO technical committee where country input and voting can take place.

The position of the US TAG to SC 14 has been in support of the BSR as a possible repository of international standards. The SC30 TAGs position was not against a repository for ISO/IEC data elements but to object to the BSR as that repository if their EDI-related activities are not moved into a traditional ISO technical committee. Ms. Paul observed that work underway in the U.S. for the CALS Universal Data Element Framework (UDEF) implementation of ISO 11179, as presented by Mr. Ron Schuldt at this meeting handled the function intended by the BSR.

In spite of the resignation of DIN as the TC 154 Secretariat, and even if there is no funding from ISO to continue the project, the project will not disappear. Sweden, France and DIN discussed the possibility of continuing the TC 154 secretariat as a joint project. SC 30 TAG's position is to encourage TC 154 to discontinue the BSR project.

5.2 Membership Requirements

Mr. Codman reviewed the new membership requirements for the US TAG as outlined in the TAG minutes of October 7, 1997. An individual can attend two consecutive meetings as an observer and then request to become a member. Now that the TAG is supported by X12, paid-up X12 members do not pay TAG dues; non-X12 members must pay dues of $500 per year.

6. Election of Officers

Mr. Dan Codman was nominated for the office of Chair. There were no other nominations and Mr. Codman was unanimously elected.

Ms. Mary Kay Blantz was nominated for the office of Vice-Chair. There were no other nominations and Ms. Blantz was unanimously elected.

7.    Determination of Next Meeting

The next meeting of the ISO/TC 154 U.S. TAG is scheduled for Wednesday, June 3, 1998, from 6:00 p.m. to 8:00 p.m. in Columbus, Ohio, in conjunction with the February X12 Trimester Meeting.

There being no further business before the group, Mr. Codman adjourned the meeting at 7:00 pm.

Respectfully submitted,

Gaile L. Spadin

ISO/TC 154 U.S. TAG Administrator

 

ATTENDEES

Members:

Dan Codman (The APL Group, Inc.)
Mary K. Blantz (AISI/LTV Steel)
William H. Gaskins, III (I.M./AIAG)
Klaus-Dieter Naujok (Harbinger Corporation)
Sandy K. Paul (SC32 US TAG Liaison)  

Observers:

Jonathan Allan (I.M.)
Ralph Berwanger (XEN Corporation)
Eric Christenson (St. Paul Software)
R. T. Crowley (Research Triangle Consultants, Inc.)
Sue Donarski (Schneider National, Inc.)
Erica Lee (National Securities Clearing Corp.)
Gary Lilley (Pinnacle Technology Resources, Inc.)
Melanie McCarthy (General Motors Corporation)
James Muenz (Uniform Code Council, Inc.)
Sandy School (Schneider National, Inc.)
Larry E. South (I.M.)
Louis Wagner (Unisys Corporation)
Martha Warfelt (Chrysler Corporation)